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Via Brant Hansen. Just read:

At one level, this movie is a bunch of violent, purposeless noise.

But there is a second deeper level. At that level, “The Dark Knight” is a discourse on the nature of evil.

And then… there is a third, still deeper, final level.

At that final level, this movie is a bunch of violent, purposeless noise.

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People are buying scalped tickets this weekend for $100 apiece. The critics say it’s brilliant. You’ve likely heard them, speaking in uniform voice, extolling the profundity of this very, very important movie. The hype has been unmatched. It’s the best of its genre — ever. Thoroughly engrossing, thoroughly entertaining, thoroughly — you know — important.

So it’s interesting to watch people emerge into the light of day in the hot Florida sun, looking for their cars in the crowded lots. They look kinda…bored. Like they did when they walked in. Almost like they didn’t just see 2.5 hours of non-stop explosions, ear-crushing destruction, screams, bleeding, shotgun blasts, and brutal torture scenes.

Let the record show that in the waning days of western civilization, when we were artistically spent, the going rate for 2.5 hours of defibrillation was $9. Anything — anything! — to get our hearts pumping again, if for a short time, before exiting to find where we put the Accord.

This movie is well-made, of course. To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, “People who enjoy that sort of thing will certainly enjoy that sort of thing.”

“The Dark Knight” is that sort of thing. Death, mayhem, horrifying chaos — wrapped in ooh-that’s-deep philosophizing that will prompt many an essay from high school sophomores. Too bad it, ultimately, means nothing.

Granted, my experience was colored somewhat. Carolyn and I were sitting next to a three-year-old, who was treated to a happy-time-with-dad buffet of burnt flesh, maniacal laughing, and corpses. It’s only PG-13, you know, which just means parents need show guidance, as they guide those they are to protect into their seats in dark, stranger-filled blood shows. Where would we be without parental guidance?

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Focus on the Family gives this movie 2-and-a-half stars for “family friendliness”. For what family, the Mansons?

Will kids say they liked it, though? Will the junior high boys like it? Here’s an experiement: Ask a group of junior high boys for movies they say that were NOT awesome. I’ve done it. There follows a long silence. This is because they are fools.

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“The Dark Knight” is cultural rigormortis. It’s what happens when we are done, and we are done. Jacques Barzun had it right, when he wrote a history of western culture up through the 1990s, and said, certainly, that our age is defined by boredom. We are excited by nothing, really, but maybe for a moment here, or a moment there, we can try to be turned on. Sex can do it (or fake sex, much more likely) but brutal violence can work, too, if for a short time.

Our culture is lying on the table, and “The Dark Knight” is just another jolt before the flatline resumes.

At least give us this: Our mass-market (which included me, yesterday) is willing to pay for it, but also demands some sense that it was all, ultimately, high-minded, that it was making some statement, that it was horrific, yes, but redemptive, blah blah blah. Expect many hip Christian types to write as much, because 1) That’s the essence of being hip, and 2) Who doesn’t like Batman?

But it’s not redemptive…unless…

Unless we can emerge in the sunlight, after ALL THAT HYPE for this masterwork, this penultimate expression, this marvel-ous creation, saying, “Really? That’s as good as it gets?”

Then we walk out into the sun, and decide it’s infinitely more interesting than what we just paid to see.


It is with great excitement that I announce that Dan Kimball, pastor of Vintage Faith Church in Santa Cruz, CA, conference speaker, and author of The Emerging Church, Emerging Worship, and , They Like Jesus, But Not the Church and co-author of Listening to the Beliefs of the Emerging Church, has agreed to be our keynote speaker for the Abandoned: Worship As Life Seminar on Saturday, September 27, 2008!

Dan will speak in four sessions on various issues such as the emerging church, emerging worship, the future of worship in the church, etc.

I must say that Kimball’s book, The Emerging Church, absolutely changed my life. It set me on a course of deconstruction and reconstruction in my ecclesiology and Emerging Worship did the same for my worship philosophy. It is an unbelievable honor to have him come.

If you remember, last year Sally Morgenthaler and Shaun Groves were with us. It was a time of great challenge and encouragement.

My vision for Abandoned remains focused on the emerging worship conversation and educating, encouraging, and spurring on MBU Worship Arts students, as well as the local church worship community. The mission for the event is:

1) Simply put, Romans 12:1. We are ‘abandoned to worship as life’ because we have been commanded to offer our bodies of living sacrifices. Living – as in all of the time. That means our spiritual act of worship, or our spiritual lifestyle, never ceases. It’s not a something we clock in to do when we go to church and then clock out. Because of the cross the ‘temple’ of worship is now our own hearts. We don’t go to church, we are the church. And that means worship can and should happen everywhere, including the church.

2) ‘Worship as life’ eludes to the idea that as we offer our bodies as living sacrifices, it impacts the people around us. This is the missional aspect of worship. In other words, as we personally worship God, we have a conversation, a connection, an intimate exchange of love between Father and child. After we’ve experienced this love in a time of worship, how could we not share the love we have been so freely given with others? Why wouldn’t we want those around us to experience what we have? If not, our worship has terminated on ourselves. We have to remember our salvation doesn’t end at the point we receive God’s free gift of grace. We have been saved to continue to redeem the world. So our worship should propel us outside the four walls of the church.

Soon, I will have an announcement regarding the artist[s] that will be here to close the day out on that Saturday evening. Be looking for more information regarding the seminar in the months ahead!


Sorry for the absence. I’ve been wrapping up my second semester of seminary over the last few weeks. Not much will change over the next couple of weeks because I’ll be working on a term paper for my Theology II class through LTS. So this is a preemptive apology for my potential lack of posting…

All that aside, I’m really excited about the direction I’m headed with my term paper. The title of my paper is:

The “Sent” Church: A Return to Gospel-Centered Mission Within the Postmodern Milieu

The main thrust of my paper will be how many churches are rediscovering that mission is at the heart of ministry, and not vice versa. Alan Hirsch says it this way in his book, The Shaping of Things To Come:

We both believe that if we aim at ministry, we seldom get to do much mission. But if we aim at mission, we have to do ministry because ministry is the means by which mission is achieved. The established church has generally got this wrong. Most never get to do real ministry with real outsiders because they aim primarily at the ‘saved.’ This we believe is a distortion of authentic New Testament faith and praxis. The church does not exist for itself but for its mission.

In an age where church and ministry exclusively equals an attractional, sit-and-soak weekend service, there is a resurgence within evangelicalism that is recognizing that, as Ed Stetzer said in his recent 4.22.08 blog entry, “New Evangelism Research”:

Believers must resolve to step into their world to share the Good News with them. If we are waiting for them to someday walk into our churches, that someday may never come. We have tried that approach for decades – many church buildings/services are looking great. They have new looks, new music and new strategies. We have gone to great length to fix up the barn, but the wheat is still not harvesting itself. I believe we must move from attractional ‘come and see’ ministry to incarnational ‘go and tell’ and join Jesus in the harvest fields all around us.

I have a short list of books – including Stetzer and Hirsch; but also Fitch, Kimball, Cole, Driscoll, Timmis, etc. – I will be pulling from for the term paper, but I know I haven’t exhausted the whole gamut. Any books, articles, podcasts, vodcasts you think I should peruse, send your thoughts my way!


The question is not are we going to grow a church or change our communities and the world. It isn’t an “either or” question–it’s a “both and.” Any church that is growing numerically has a higher standard and expectation of engagement than a church that isn’t. Any church that is engaging should be reaching lost people at a higher rate and more intensive rate than one that is merely a Sunday event. How can you have one without the other. When we split the two, we either have a Sunday event which allows people to deny and ignore God in comfort while absolving guilt because the sacrifice of church attendance was laid down, or a humanitarian organization which feeds the stomach but not the soul.

-Bob Roberts, from his “Ready For Korea and the World” entry from his blog, Glocalnet

[Photo by Scott Keddy. Covered by Creative Commons License]


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…you see few Christian artists really working hard enough and doing good enough art to be in that bigger worldview conversation that’s happening. Instead you see them sort of relegated to this kind of meaningless little Christian chart, well it’s like since we’re not good enough to compete with the real music, the real general market music, the big worldview discussions happening. We’re going to have our own awards ceremonies, the Dove Awards, or our little radio stations, our own little charts, and our own little world to make ourselves feel significant because ultimately the art we’re making just isn’t earning ourselves a seat at the table to really communicate what we believe by way of great art.

-Derek Webb, from Patrol Magazine’sThe Derek Webb Interview Part II


A new feature for 2008: extract’d. This is where I ‘extract’ a quote of note that has garnered my attention that I think might garner yours. It’s intended to spur conversation. And yes, it is eerily like Out of Ur’s “Out of Context” feature. But on relevintage, I get to pick the quotes. So there…

Here’s this week’s edition:

“It has nothing to do with the Christmas message. . . . It’s selling a sensation, an experience. . . . What competitive churches understand is that you are not going to sell your service on the basis of doctrine because it’s all the same. When people go to church they . . . want to know if there’s a good show. And often that’s not coming out of doctrine, it comes from music, theatrics and the sound system.”

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-James Twitchell, professor of English and advertising at the University of Florida, from a recent Chicago Tribune article, “Megachurches, megashows: Some organzations spend $1 million on performances to spread message”.

HT: Justin Taylor


Due to the fact that I will be reading an inordinate amount of books over the next few months with my seminary work, relevintage will probably be peppered with quotes of note.

Here is one that sums up some thoughts I’ve had lately about the danger of misunderstanding the idea of being ‘missional’:

It is not primarily out of a compassion for humanity that we share our faith or pray for the lost; it is first of all, love for God. The Bible says in Ephesians 6:7-8: ‘With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men, knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free.’

Humanity does not deserve the love of God any more than you or I do. We should never be Christian humanists, taking Jesus to poor sinful people, reducing Jesus to some kind of product that will better their lot. People deserve to be damned but Jesus, the suffering Lamb of God, deserves the reward of his suffering.”

-Wesley Duewel of YWAM from his book, Ablaze for God


“…singing/playing popular secular songs on Sunday mornings can have a number of effects, some good, some not so good. What are people hearing as these songs are being played? Are they thinking, “Wow, these Christians really relate to me?” Or are they thinking, “Gee, I never knew Christians listen to the same kind of music I do. We’re really not that different!” Or are they thinking, “Why are these Christians trying to act so much like me? I was hoping they could provide some answers to my problems.” Or maybe, “Why do I come to church to hear second-rate versions of songs I listen to? Why don’t they sing about something has changed their lives, rather than something I already know?”

-Bob Kauflin from worshipmatters.com and his blog entry, “Q & A: Should We Use Secular Songs on Sunday?”

I think Kauflin is right on…as usual. I love the line, “Why do I come to church to hear second-rate versions of songs I listen to?” So true, so true…


Ed Stetzer, director of Lifeway Research, posted a link on his blog today to the USA Today story on Lifeway’s research on why 18-22 year-olds drop out of church.

Here is the description from Stetzer:

This study is an in-depth look at the percentage of young adults who stay in church vs. drop out between the ages of 18 and 22. Insights will include reasons some leave the church and others stay, as well as what can be done to encourage more to stay in church

Here’s a snippet from the article:

Seven in 10 Protestants ages 18 to 30 — both evangelical and mainline — who went to church regularly in high school said they quit attending by age 23, according to the survey by LifeWay Research. And 34% of those said they had not returned, even sporadically, by age 30. That means about one in four Protestant young people have left the church.

“This is sobering news that the church needs to change the way it does ministry,” says Ed Stetzer, director of Nashville-based LifeWay Research, which is affiliated with the publishing arm of the Southern Baptist Convention.

So if this is true, what impact does this have on how we do ministry? It makes things bubble up in me…

Read the entire article here.

Also, you can see all of Lifeway’s media on this research here:

LifeWay Research Uncovers Reasons 18 to 22 Year Olds Drop Out of Church

LifeWay Research: Parents, Churches Can Help Teens Stay in Church

Church Dropout Study Podcast

Church Dropouts How Many Leave Church and Why Powerpoint

Teen Influences on Church Dropouts Powerpoint

Church Dropouts Faces of Young Adults Ages 18_22 Powerpoint


sally11.jpgAs I mentioned yesterday in my announcement about the abandoned: worship as life seminar at MoBap in September, I have had the privilege to be in conversation over the last couple of months with Sally Morgenthaler, who has been consulting me as I build this brand new Worship Arts major.

I can’t think of any expert and thinker that I would want more to ‘speak into’ this new program. It has been a great honor to engage with Sally in this way and I’m excited to state again that Sally has graciously agreed to let me post some of her answers to my questions during our consulting conversations here on this blog.

In many ways, this will give you a taste of the types of things Sally will be talking about at abandoned. Also, some of our first conversation is what led me to speak about my topic, “Keeping the Sacred Space Sacred: Caring About the Right Things as Worship Leaders and Worshippers.”

In Part 1 of this continuing ‘Q & A’ series, Sally talks about her growing concern about production-driven churches and the impact the worship space has on our corporate worship:

Have we trained our people to care about the wrong things? Particularly, high production at all costs?

Sally: This describes so many of the large churches – over 1000 – that I have worked with and seen over the last few years who ironically have stopped growing, many of them are in denial that they are actually losing ground – they are saying that they are at least maintaining – where the last few years that is hard to even say that because the losses are becoming pretty evident.

The really savvy leaders are asking the deeper questions. However most leaders, especially if they are of the baby boomer variety, even young boomers, old X’ers who were trained by boomers, are going for the band-aid – let’s get a VJ machine, let’s get another screen, let’s increase the production value – thinking if they increase the excellence factor – the cool factor – that it will fix whatever problem.

It is a paradigm that is all about ‘people come because it’s a good show’ and if people aren’t coming, the show isn’t good enough. That is the paradigm that came of the 90′s which really came out of a pretty strong 80′s performance paradigm. It got entrenched in the 90′s. Many churches added praise and worship choruses in the 90′s. Make it good, if you are slacking, make it better.

What impact does the worship space have on worship?

Sally: Buildings are us. Buildings determine what we do and how we do it in worship. They are not neutral. If all we have is a box and a stage, it is driven by a broadcast value. Those churches are built for presentation. They are not built for interaction. They are not built for anything that would come close to a mystical experience.

Short of going back and asking how the environment impacts the worship and how we are helped to engage with God at a different level and with other, all we are left with is to tweak what they were built for which is performance.

To ask the question is very scary for many large churches. Because then we have to say, “We have the wrong kinds of buildings…”

It is an identity issue if a church’s identity is performance. When someone says ‘let’s create some intimacy’ it doesn’t jive with a performance mentality.

If a church is going to spend more money on technology to increase the excellence to bring more people in, that fits into the performance value. Making a room smaller, taking the stage and eliminating the distance – which is a huge issue for emerging culture – doesn’t feed the performance identity.


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